Screw Crowd PR
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:03 am
I just wanted to bring something to light about Crowd PR www.crowd.pr. I think the .PR domain should be a red flag to all, but I digress. I have had dealings with them on past campaigns, and by dealings I mean email conversations. I have wanted to try them out for a long time, but this one takes the cake, and I will never use them.
I ASKED THEM TO WORK ON PURE COMMISSION, a simple request, I wasn’t asking for their first born son for crying out loud!
Here was their response:
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 11:28 AM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote: I have told you time and time again, we do not work on commission. Stop emailing me every week to ask this. My answer will not change!
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
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I was shocked. I have never seen such unprofessionalism in all my days. Yelling at a client in an email? This person is clearly a mad man, messed up in the head. All I have done was try to persuade him to work on commission for my campaign. Yes I was persistent, but so what? THAT IS MY RIGHT AS A MEMBER OF THE KICKSTARTER COMMUNITY.
But it confirmed my suspicions: crowdfunding pr agency who does not work on commission is a scam. It was put on my heart long ago that if these agencies are so great then they should be able to work on commission.
I will be posting several negative reviews of Crowd PR based on his response alone.
After some time of reflection to cool off, I replied, casually bating him knowing full well I would show the world what a monster they are:
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:00 PM, ******** <*****@************-*******.com> wrote:
If you can’t work on commission then I know you are a scam. If you are able to raise funds then you should have no problem with it. I see Crowd PR and your domain of www.crowd.pr is not even a .com domain. How am I supposed to trust someone with a .pr domain?
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Crowd PR’s response here:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2017, at 04:28 AM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
That is not a valid argument, and I don’t even understand what you are talking about. It does not matter if we have a .com or a .pr, and I think you are making an invalid argument.
We only work under the pricing model described on The Crowd PR website: www.crowd.pr.
PS - I am proud of our .PR domain! Our domain is literally our agency name. Don’t you get it?
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
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I proceeded to call him out about more things. His website was terribly designed without even case study pages, or a contact me page. They didn’t even have a tos or privacy policy shown. That is illegal in many countries. I reported him for that to the BBB, and I am awaiting their response for that.
I’ll just show the remaining conversation we had here. I want to expose Crowd PR for their pricing, and I want it to be a lesson to all other marketing agencies:
IF YOU REFUSE TO WORK ON COMMISSION, YOU ARE A SCAM. WE WILL FIND YOU, AND WE WILL BRING YOU DOWN!
Our remaining conversation is as follows, edited for brevity:
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On Thurs, Nov 2, 2017, at 01:08 PM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
Our price is our price. We will not work on commission, we never have and we never will.
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:00 PM, ******** <*****@************-*******.com> wrote:
That is because you are a scam. Prove to me you are not a scam. I want a guarantee, in contract, of a minimum of $200,000 raised. If you are so good at PR then this should be no issue for you.
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 04:02 PM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
That is not a rational request. If you continue to email me I will add you to our spam filter.
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:20 PM, ******** <*****@************-*******.com> wrote:
Fine. But I will show the world and the whole kickstarter community about this. Every real firm works on straight commission. Thanks for proving to me that you are not a real firm.
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 04:22 PM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
REPORTED FOR SPAM
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
I ASKED THEM TO WORK ON PURE COMMISSION, a simple request, I wasn’t asking for their first born son for crying out loud!
Here was their response:
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 11:28 AM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote: I have told you time and time again, we do not work on commission. Stop emailing me every week to ask this. My answer will not change!
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
---
I was shocked. I have never seen such unprofessionalism in all my days. Yelling at a client in an email? This person is clearly a mad man, messed up in the head. All I have done was try to persuade him to work on commission for my campaign. Yes I was persistent, but so what? THAT IS MY RIGHT AS A MEMBER OF THE KICKSTARTER COMMUNITY.
But it confirmed my suspicions: crowdfunding pr agency who does not work on commission is a scam. It was put on my heart long ago that if these agencies are so great then they should be able to work on commission.
I will be posting several negative reviews of Crowd PR based on his response alone.
After some time of reflection to cool off, I replied, casually bating him knowing full well I would show the world what a monster they are:
--- --- ---
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:00 PM, ******** <*****@************-*******.com> wrote:
If you can’t work on commission then I know you are a scam. If you are able to raise funds then you should have no problem with it. I see Crowd PR and your domain of www.crowd.pr is not even a .com domain. How am I supposed to trust someone with a .pr domain?
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Crowd PR’s response here:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2017, at 04:28 AM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
That is not a valid argument, and I don’t even understand what you are talking about. It does not matter if we have a .com or a .pr, and I think you are making an invalid argument.
We only work under the pricing model described on The Crowd PR website: www.crowd.pr.
PS - I am proud of our .PR domain! Our domain is literally our agency name. Don’t you get it?
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
--- --- ---
I proceeded to call him out about more things. His website was terribly designed without even case study pages, or a contact me page. They didn’t even have a tos or privacy policy shown. That is illegal in many countries. I reported him for that to the BBB, and I am awaiting their response for that.
I’ll just show the remaining conversation we had here. I want to expose Crowd PR for their pricing, and I want it to be a lesson to all other marketing agencies:
IF YOU REFUSE TO WORK ON COMMISSION, YOU ARE A SCAM. WE WILL FIND YOU, AND WE WILL BRING YOU DOWN!
Our remaining conversation is as follows, edited for brevity:
--- --- ---
On Thurs, Nov 2, 2017, at 01:08 PM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
Our price is our price. We will not work on commission, we never have and we never will.
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:00 PM, ******** <*****@************-*******.com> wrote:
That is because you are a scam. Prove to me you are not a scam. I want a guarantee, in contract, of a minimum of $200,000 raised. If you are so good at PR then this should be no issue for you.
--- --- ---
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 04:02 PM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
That is not a rational request. If you continue to email me I will add you to our spam filter.
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:20 PM, ******** <*****@************-*******.com> wrote:
Fine. But I will show the world and the whole kickstarter community about this. Every real firm works on straight commission. Thanks for proving to me that you are not a real firm.
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 04:22 PM, William Henry <william@crowd.pr> wrote:
REPORTED FOR SPAM
William Henry | business development
Crowd PR | www.crowd.pr
Office hours: 9am-10pm PST
156 2nd St. San Francisco, CA 94105