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Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:38 pm
by Diego
NEXA 3d is using a technology that does not belong to them to solicit funds. As PCT registration number PCT/CA2015/050860 will prove, this is a technology first registered on April 30th ,2015 and it does not belong to them.
As their published application number proves (Europa 102015000057527) their local application date is October 2015.
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:05 pm
by jmac
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:16 pm
by Diego
Kickstarter should not accept any new "idea" with out an issued patent!!!! but I guess they are not interested genuinely on crowd funding but just there commission...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/abigailtrac ... omplaints/
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:48 am
by NEXA3D
Thelyn Srl (Nexa3d) entirely rejects and disagrees with the allegations and statements posted on this site concerning infringement of third party intellectual property rights.
Nexa3d has its own patents pending applicable to its products, and takes intellectual property rights very seriously. As such, to the extent that any infringers of Nexa3d technology become known to Nexa3d, or in the event of any trade libel or disparagement of Nexa3d products, Nexa3d will not hesitate to seek remedies as permitted under the law.
For additional information about Nexa3d and its products and technologies, please visit
http://www.nexa3d.com and our kickstarter page
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nx1/nx1-the-first-fast-3d-printe
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:00 am
by Diego
Its Funny how quickly and suddenly Nexa3d jumps from issued patent to patent pending Hummm good advice from John, I assume...
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:08 am
by Diego
Patent pending means you don't own nothing... it is in review by the patenting authorities... what will you guys do, once you don't get your patent, because you guys are very aware this has a different owner correct? its a Canadian Company with PCT registration PCT/CA2015/050860... hey just a coincidence you might say... if you actually own something you should not be allowed to collect funds!!!! I suggest you get a good lawyer that either defends you guys or stop this charade...
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:36 am
by jmac
Whether knowingly or not, the tech seems to be infringing. Claiming to own a patent when it is pending is misleading to your customers how have now pledged many thousands.
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:07 am
by Diego
I have to agree with jmac... how is it possible, I simply don't understand... one could post a pending patent from any company... and patented in their home country and by the time the patent office resolves... there is a window of opportunity for the opportunist... kickstarter should NOT allow ideas that DO NO HAVE A PATENT... the crowd funding idea is damaged by those opportunist!!! the whole point is lost... it will give crowd funding a bad reputation... which it all ready has by the way...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/abigailtrac ... omplaints/
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:51 am
by Robert
Let's see what is going to be the answer from Kickstarter about infringement of third party intellectual property rights, this is something that shouldn't be unnoticed considering there are people investing in a company without knowing if they really have the technology they are selling.
Re: Nexa3d or NX1
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:40 pm
by NoteCaddie
While I do see your points about needing to have a patent for anything you put up on Kickstarter I'm not sure I agree. I read an article recently where a business raised millions on Kickstarter and then mysteriously dissolved on suspect circumstances. Crowdfunding, like any system can be abused. It's deplorable and I agree with you that if someone is stealing willfully or negligently, they should be called out for it and there should be recourse.
On the other hand, patenting can be very expensive, and for someone with a great idea and not a lot of money (maybe someone who is subsequently attracted to crowdfunding), it could be cost prohibitive until they raise some funds, so I would be weary of forcing a project to have a patent in order to be on Kickstarter.
Additionally, with the advent of patent trolling, patent law has been affected in a way that decreases the ability of an individual or business to patent their ideas.
To add to this, many projects on Kickstarter are things like movies, which you would patent.
Clearly your points are well heard in regard to stealing, and I agree there should be, and likely is something in kickstarters terms of use, but also consider that it takes the patent office months and even years to get back to you on whether a patent is truly valid and you can stake a claim. How could we fairly expect Kickstarter to validate a patent in what would have to be a way more efficient way?
It's a potentially large problem, and it's rather awesome to see that there are people like you guys who have the savvy to notice and the forthrightness to care and make mention of it.
In the spirit of this forum, shameless plug now for my Kickstarter. Check us out:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/89 ... obile-golfI look forward to hearing your guys' continued thoughts on the topic. Just thought I'd add a little bit of the old devil's advocate treatment here, as I can certainly understand scenarios where people would feel boxed out if they needed a patent.