Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?
  • Johnny Appleseed
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by Johnny Appleseed » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:13 pm

    Most top tier campaigns do a ton of advertisement. I have heard stories of people spending $400k on ads to raise $600k. A $200k profit after ad spend may sound good, but when you factor in the cost of product development then you’re underwater. That’s the reason why so many huge campaigns fail to deliver rewards, they spend way way to much on Ads and then end up losing money after all is said and done. They usually try to find cheaper manufacturing which fails, and before you know it then the whole campaign goes right down the drain.



    WookieWantsFunding wrote:Is that a serious post or are you making some kind of joke?


    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.


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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by YabbaJabba22 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:14 pm

    Here is a little guide on how to avoid being scammed by any company online.

    1. Check references from past clients
    2. If you do not hear back from references in a timely manner, then ask the marketing agency for proof that they did the campaign they are taking credit for. Don’t be shy about this, because if they did in fact work with a campaign then they will have evidence of doing so. Remotely accessing their computer during a skype chat is a great way to verify that they they are an active agency doing good work.

    NOTE:

    Time is of the essence for campaigns. References usually don’t reply fast and most of them don’t reply at all. Never just blindly guess when you are hiring an agency. Assume everything they say is false and give them the chance to prove you wrong.

    Most of the scammers talk a big game, but if you ask them to show evidence they won’t be able to provide anything. Never just believe what people email to you, always always verify it through any means possible.

    Offering guarantees of success or money back guarantees is always an indicator that a company is a scam. If you have an concept of free will, you should be well aware of the fact that there is no guarantee to force people to buy your product.

    I think most of the scams on the fraud watch here offer guarantees in their sales emails, so keep that in mind.

    3. If there is no way for the marketing company to prove that they did the work they are taking credit for, you have to pass on them, because they are lying about their track record.



    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by A Clock Work Red » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:16 pm

    Your guide is not very helpful. In the heat of the moment during a live campaign there is no time to have meetings to check anything. You have to go on what these companies tell you in their emails alone. Yes it is difficult but I assure you it is an art form, with experience you just kind of get a feeling about who is legit and who is a scam.

    And I disagree about guarantees. I have seen companies offer a $100,000 raise guaranteed or your money back. It works because you can just take them to court if you don’t make the guarantee and get your money back that way. Sure it will take some time to recuperate the funds, but it just goes to show the power of a guarantee.



    YabbaJabba22 wrote:Here is a little guide on how to avoid being scammed by any company online.

    1. Check references from past clients
    2. If you do not hear back from references in a timely manner, then ask the marketing agency for proof that they did the campaign they are taking credit for. Don’t be shy about this, because if they did in fact work with a campaign then they will have evidence of doing so. Remotely accessing their computer during a skype chat is a great way to verify that they they are an active agency doing good work.

    NOTE:

    Time is of the essence for campaigns. References usually don’t reply fast and most of them don’t reply at all. Never just blindly guess when you are hiring an agency. Assume everything they say is false and give them the chance to prove you wrong.

    Most of the scammers talk a big game, but if you ask them to show evidence they won’t be able to provide anything. Never just believe what people email to you, always always verify it through any means possible.

    Offering guarantees of success or money back guarantees is always an indicator that a company is a scam. If you have an concept of free will, you should be well aware of the fact that there is no guarantee to force people to buy your product.

    I think most of the scams on the fraud watch here offer guarantees in their sales emails, so keep that in mind.

    3. If there is no way for the marketing company to prove that they did the work they are taking credit for, you have to pass on them, because they are lying about their track record.



    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by New Wave Pipes » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:17 pm

    I had a guy guarantee I would get into Mashable for coverage. Guaranteed me. As soon as I sent that guy the money that was the last I heard from him. I can’t speak for Crowd PR, but if they only target crowdfunding companies odds are that they will just do the same.


    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by WitnessofGreatness » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:19 pm

    Seems to far fetched to me


    Ray.Trentson wrote:Heads up but they are also taking credit for a $2.1 mil fundraise as well:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana/

    No way to verify that from what I can tell. Here’s the campaign just in case anyone knows anything:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/10 ... e-of-belgr

    Two big campaigns right out the gate is far too suspect for me. It takes years and years of building an agency to get to that point, and even then it’s still not promised that they even get to work on any big campaigns. Someone somewhere here posted that they were founded in 2017, and this was confirmed on their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/crowdpragency

    It’s too much too soon, and they only have 600 facebook likes. Engagement seems low and I expect much greater engagement for an agency. If they really are running facebook ads as they claim to be a top ad agency one would expect a much more active social media presence.


    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
    ;)
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by ThatDapperLook » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:20 pm

    Crowd PR Guru is a scam, Crowd PR Ninja is a scam, and Crowdfunding Ninjas are scams. Steer clear everyone. BEWARE



    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by ThatDapperLook » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:21 pm

    Crowd PR Guru is a scam, Crowd PR Ninja is a scam, and Crowdfunding Ninjas are scams. Steer clear everyone. BEWARE



    Fritz Franz wrote:This is kind of a common problem with online marketing in general. The only legit ways to know if a company worked with a campaign or not is a reference check or the badges / links on a kickstarter campaign.

    I know we all like online reviews like yelp, but if you are really determined to get to the truth about something then you must be made aware that anyone at anytime can post a review. Doesn’t mean it is true, not by a long shot.

    In the end though, it does all come down to taking calculated risks. Despite what the person above me says. I don’t think most of the people on here have any real business experience based on what I have read in this forum. Risk and Reward are closely tied together. The lower the risk of something, the lower the possible rewards are.

    For example, if you want someone to guarantee you will raise your funds you are seriously just asking to be ripped off. Anyone can guarantee the moon just to get you to send over your money. And once you do send that money you will never see it again. That I can guarantee haha.

    I think people who ask for money back guarantees watch too much television. On the infomercials you always see those guarantees, but when it comes to hiring small online services providers it’s a totally different ball game. There is nothing stopping someone from guaranteeing whatever you want, getting the money, and then disappearing. I think that is really basic logic that even a 3rd grader could grasp, so I am hoping to got that some of you online here who talk about guarantees are not native english speakers and don’t quite understand the meaning of the word guarantee.


    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by ThatDapperLook » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:21 pm

    Crowd PR Guru is a scam, Crowd PR Ninja is a scam, and Crowdfunding Ninjas are scams. Steer clear everyone. BEWARE



    WookieWantsFunding wrote:Is that a serious post or are you making some kind of joke?


    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by ThatDapperLook » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:21 pm

    Crowd PR Guru is a scam, Crowd PR Ninja is a scam, and Crowdfunding Ninjas are scams. Steer clear everyone. BEWARE



    Ray.Trentson wrote:Heads up but they are also taking credit for a $2.1 mil fundraise as well:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana/

    No way to verify that from what I can tell. Here’s the campaign just in case anyone knows anything:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/10 ... e-of-belgr

    Two big campaigns right out the gate is far too suspect for me. It takes years and years of building an agency to get to that point, and even then it’s still not promised that they even get to work on any big campaigns. Someone somewhere here posted that they were founded in 2017, and this was confirmed on their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/crowdpragency

    It’s too much too soon, and they only have 600 facebook likes. Engagement seems low and I expect much greater engagement for an agency. If they really are running facebook ads as they claim to be a top ad agency one would expect a much more active social media presence.


    Nouveau wrote:Are they asking you for money upfront? If so, then it does not matter what their track record is. There is no guarantee they will do anything if you pay them anything upfront. We as founders must require guarantees of success, notarized if possible, in order to work with a marketing promotion service.

    No one has ever achieved success by taking risks. If success is not guaranteed then move along to someone who does guarantee success, you’ll be thankful you did once your campaign is a raging hit, and you’ll be glad that you passed on these terrible firms who require money upfront.

    I have an agency I use who requires nothing upfront, and sends me a guarantee of full funding each time I work with them. I require pictures of their ID, Social Security Card, and Birth Certificate each time so that there is recourse for them if my campaigns are not funded.

    Never take chances, you can’t leave your fate up to chance. Find someone who will guarantee what you want and stick to them. So many things can go wrong during a campaign that without a guarantee you have nothing at all.


    FighttheFight wrote:Hello everyone. Over the last several months I have been made aware of a PR firm called Crowd PR who states that they worked with a campaign which raised $3.8 million dollars on kickstarter. It’s quite a lofty claim, but if true I must know for certain.

    The email I received from this agency is posted here

    ---

    Hello,

    Your product is a great fit for our Gear PR Program. Check it out here:
    https://crowd.pr/gear

    We did PR for a $2.1M campaign. They posted our badge on the bottom of their kickstarter page:
    https://crowd.pr/kuroi-hana

    What websites do you want to get featured by the most?

    ---

    I reached out to the owner of this campaign, but there was no response. Likely because only their support address is listed. I did see that their logo is on this campaign’s page, but I want something more as I am not convinced.
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    Re: Crowd PR $3.8M campaign?

    by Mightee » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:23 pm

    Sounds to me like you are being scammed. A common thread with all these scams online is that they make huge promises and under deliver. No one on this forum ever has raised over a million, and no one ever will.

    If that is what they are promising you, you need to snap back to reality right now before it is too late. If it sounds too good to be true, then it is too good to be true, always. These old sayings don’t just come out of nowhere they are practically scripture the absolute truth.

    Does it sound too good to be true to you? Then it probably is. It sounds too good to be true to me so I just want to warn you that you are being scammed. Only 5 campaigns in history have ever raised over a million. Those were preordained to do so, it was fate that they raise those amounts. It had nothing to do with skill, nothing to do with hard work, it was destiny that they raise those amounts. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

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