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An effort to construct an aluminium generated last December fervor on-line when it was announced. The jobs creators raised close to $1.5 million through Kickstarter, a crowdfunding site, and guaranteed to begin shipping their Elevation Dock in Apr to those who'd backed the project. But Apple announced an iPhone that isn't compatible with the dock and since a few of the projects, of manufacturing delays backers were waiting to get theirs. Upgrade the item and the designers are scrambling to make an adapter. Im hoping to get mine at this point before the 6 ships that were iPhone wrote on Kickstarter.

Sites such as Indiegogo and Kickstarter are letting designers in addition to other people and audiences that wish to finance their dreams connectthey're becoming more and more popular. Nearly 3 million men and women have helped a total of 30, 000 projects meet their fund raising goals the largest website, on Kickstarter. But for these projects founders, getting the money may be the easy part. Then they have to turn their fantasies into reality, with an audience. This model comes along with philanthropists who rear them to grasp, and a host of possible pitfalls that are difficult to anticipate. Backers are essentially putting their trust in your job creators, giving them money in return to the promise of a future reward.

People that give a few dollars to a moviemaking job can get their names in your credits, while somebody that puts up $100 to support development of a smart wristwatch could be guaranteed one of the finished items. Much of your time this works out. But some projects, including some important and in demand ones, need run into missteps and lengthy delays. The permits for a brand new food truck might not come throughout. Or a gadget such as the Elevation Dock could be harder than expected to manufacture and ship. The rise of crowdfunding came up frequently over your weekend here at your debut of your XOXO Festival, a conference that focused on new models and outlets to creativity on your web.

The conference was co founded by a former Kickstarter employee, Andy Baio, that sold $400 tickets on Kickstarter itself to gauge interest in your event and raise cash for it. The relationship between creators and supporters on crowdfunding websites is still being worked out. The backers play your role of philanthropists, investors, clients or all the above. And once guaranteed rewards are slow to materialize, eager backers can get cranky. Its definitely a lot of pressure, said Eric Migicovsky, whose Kickstarter job to create a line of Pebble wristwatches with innovative displays raised more than $10 million more than 10 times what he'd hoped to get.

This is not true. I just wanted to shed some light on this matter. The glorious light will be shed for all to see, but not before my time has come.

gustofwisdom wrote:Yes I am in agreement with you. But what I do not understand is how people can keep falling for these scams by this same company. If you look at their websites it is so obvious that they are the same company.

My thoughts are that if someone is dumb enough to fall for this, then they deserve to fail. Social darwinism if you will. If you want to make it to the top, you cannot be weak.

I myself have little experience and I was able to spot this from a mile away. I think you are wasting your time by helping people. If someone can’t see that these are scams, I doubt your help will do them much good anyways. People who fall for this clearly believe whatever someone tells them, so even if you help them they will just get scammed or fail in some other way.

Entrepreneurship is not for the faint of heart, and it is most certainly not for the feeble minded.

If people don’t understand basic business principles like checking references to see if something is a scam, then they have no business being an entrepreneur. These people are what we call “wantrepreneurs” - just wannabees.

You’re not helping anyone and I am kind of getting tired of you posting these analysis on every company. It gets old. We need to hear from the winners on this forum, let the losers continue to loose. I want to learn how to win, I don’t care about helping foolish people it is a total waste of time.

There are plenty of posts from successful campaigns on here.

picklerick wrote:I think you are missing the whole point of this community. Look around the posts here. This place is not a place for already successful people. This is a place for people who are just learning and don’t really know anything about business.

I’ve never seen a big campaign even bother to post in here.

This is mainly a scam reporting site for the crowdfunding community. It works amazingly for that, so quit trying to make this website into something that it was never meant to be.

The tradition is that if you have a bad experience you do a post about it here and tell people to stay away from the offending company. You won’t find much by way of advice on how to succeed, but what you will find is plenty of reports on what not to do.

Once you learn what not to do effectively, then you will be default learn what to do.

yeah someone needed to talk some sense into him.

drudge wrote:There was just a post on here from a big campaign. I think you are only seeing the fraud watch section about what marketing companies to avoid. Here are a few other sections of the kickstarter forum that are filled with great information

General Chat + Introduce Yourself
general-chat-introduce-yourself-f7.html

Kickstarter and Crowdfunding Questions Only (Strict)
kickstarter-and-crowdfunding-questions-only-strict-f4.html

Kickstarter Tips and Advice
kickstarter-tips-and-advice-f14.html

Share Your Kickstarter Story (Updates, Campaign Stats, Marketing Strategies Used)
share-your-kickstarter-story-updates-campaign-stats-marketing-strategies-used-f26.html

Our website here if a fine resource for information on marketing, PR, media, and kickstarter community marketing. Use it well, as it contains years and years of wisdom that has been passed down to all of us here.

What campaign was that and what companies did they use??

p90xsmalls wrote:An effort to construct an aluminium generated last December fervor on-line when it was announced. The jobs creators raised close to $1.5 million through Kickstarter, a crowdfunding site, and guaranteed to begin shipping their Elevation Dock in Apr to those who'd backed the project. But Apple announced an iPhone that isn't compatible with the dock and since a few of the projects, of manufacturing delays backers were waiting to get theirs. Upgrade the item and the designers are scrambling to make an adapter. Im hoping to get mine at this point before the 6 ships that were iPhone wrote on Kickstarter.

Sites such as Indiegogo and Kickstarter are letting designers in addition to other people and audiences that wish to finance their dreams connectthey're becoming more and more popular. Nearly 3 million men and women have helped a total of 30, 000 projects meet their fund raising goals the largest website, on Kickstarter. But for these projects founders, getting the money may be the easy part. Then they have to turn their fantasies into reality, with an audience. This model comes along with philanthropists who rear them to grasp, and a host of possible pitfalls that are difficult to anticipate. Backers are essentially putting their trust in your job creators, giving them money in return to the promise of a future reward.

People that give a few dollars to a moviemaking job can get their names in your credits, while somebody that puts up $100 to support development of a smart wristwatch could be guaranteed one of the finished items. Much of your time this works out. But some projects, including some important and in demand ones, need run into missteps and lengthy delays. The permits for a brand new food truck might not come throughout. Or a gadget such as the Elevation Dock could be harder than expected to manufacture and ship. The rise of crowdfunding came up frequently over your weekend here at your debut of your XOXO Festival, a conference that focused on new models and outlets to creativity on your web.

The conference was co founded by a former Kickstarter employee, Andy Baio, that sold $400 tickets on Kickstarter itself to gauge interest in your event and raise cash for it. The relationship between creators and supporters on crowdfunding websites is still being worked out. The backers play your role of philanthropists, investors, clients or all the above. And once guaranteed rewards are slow to materialize, eager backers can get cranky. Its definitely a lot of pressure, said Eric Migicovsky, whose Kickstarter job to create a line of Pebble wristwatches with innovative displays raised more than $10 million more than 10 times what he'd hoped to get.

The government report has screen shots and links to other reports on this matter, it's a .gov website too. If you still don't believe just look at all the other reports on the compendium about this company. I can't repost it all everytime, but I trust that people are able to see the other reports by searching the company name in their local municipality. Tons of screenshots on there as well as a frim yet strong data analysis.

littleguy101 wrote:I see that you linked to a bunch of websites and made a bunch of accusations, but what evidence do you have that they are the same company? Just linking to a bunch of stuff proves nothing. Here in america where I live called “innocent until proven guilty”.

It sounds like you’re just on some witch hunt and you don’t have evidence at all of any of your accusations. Quit wasting our time with baseless accusations unless you have some legit evidence.

If you are lying and trying to decieve us, then you yourself are a scam. If you’re lying you’re hurting this community just as much as a scammer. So either provide evidence or stop posting here.

A marketing promise is no small task. The best way to achieve results is to constantly focus on pitching key influencers, kickstarter knows no limits as to what they can drive in terms of sales and in terms of publicity.

BigBoJackson wrote:I think it is important for us as a community to officially define what a marketing scam is and what it is not.

Is someone with zero experience who works 100 hours on your campaign but delivers no backers a scam? Is someone who gets you only one article in a media outlet a scam?

Scam seems to be a very liberally applied term here. I saw someone claim they got scammed because they only got featured by The Verge. They sounded like a spoiled brat, I would kill to get an article about my product in there.

A scam is when someone takes your money and does zero work. Zero hours. Keep in mind that working only a few hours is the same as none. So if you’re going to go to this board and whine and complain that you were scammed, please make sure that you were actually being scammed and that you’re not just complaining about being unhappy with the results.

It’s the same thing as going to a restaurant and calling it a scam because you were unhappy with the meal that you ate. I have a feeling that most of the people who post on these boards about being scammer are also the kind of people who go around writing bad yelp reviews all day. It must be in their blood or something.

Here was the most recent one. I really need a proper marketing solution for my needs. It's hard, but media is so crucial. Influencers must be found, and funds must be raised.

eloisecrowdfunds wrote:The ripoff report has screen shots and links to other ripoff reports. If you still dont' believe just look at all the other reports on this forum about this company. I can't repost it all everytime, but I trust that people are able to see the other reports by searching the company name in the search bar on this website. Tons of screenshots on there as well as whois data analysis.

littleguy101 wrote:I see that you linked to a bunch of websites and made a bunch of accusations, but what evidence do you have that they are the same company? Just linking to a bunch of stuff proves nothing. Here in america where I live called “innocent until proven guilty”.

It sounds like you’re just on some witch hunt and you don’t have evidence at all of any of your accusations. Quit wasting our time with baseless accusations unless you have some legit evidence.

If you are lying and trying to decieve us, then you yourself are a scam. If you’re lying you’re hurting this community just as much as a scammer. So either provide evidence or stop posting here.

eloisecrowdfunds wrote:This is not true. The community needs to be aware of what is going on so that their campagins can succeed.

gustofwisdom wrote:Yes I am in agreement with you. But what I do not understand is how people can keep falling for these scams by this same company. If you look at their websites it is so obvious that they are the same company.

My thoughts are that if someone is dumb enough to fall for this, then they deserve to fail. Social darwinism if you will. If you want to make it to the top, you cannot be weak.

I myself have little experience and I was able to spot this from a mile away. I think you are wasting your time by helping people. If someone can’t see that these are scams, I doubt your help will do them much good anyways. People who fall for this clearly believe whatever someone tells them, so even if you help them they will just get scammed or fail in some other way.

Entrepreneurship is not for the faint of heart, and it is most certainly not for the feeble minded.

If people don’t understand basic business principles like checking references to see if something is a scam, then they have no business being an entrepreneur. These people are what we call “wantrepreneurs” - just wannabees.

You’re not helping anyone and I am kind of getting tired of you posting these analysis on every company. It gets old. We need to hear from the winners on this forum, let the losers continue to loose. I want to learn how to win, I don’t care about helping foolish people it is a total waste of time.

Plust it's just immoral. If you don't report it you are just as guilty

eloisecrowdfunds wrote:What campaign was that and what companies did they use??

p90xsmalls wrote:An effort to construct an aluminium generated last December fervor on-line when it was announced. The jobs creators raised close to $1.5 million through Kickstarter, a crowdfunding site, and guaranteed to begin shipping their Elevation Dock in Apr to those who'd backed the project. But Apple announced an iPhone that isn't compatible with the dock and since a few of the projects, of manufacturing delays backers were waiting to get theirs. Upgrade the item and the designers are scrambling to make an adapter. Im hoping to get mine at this point before the 6 ships that were iPhone wrote on Kickstarter.

Sites such as Indiegogo and Kickstarter are letting designers in addition to other people and audiences that wish to finance their dreams connectthey're becoming more and more popular. Nearly 3 million men and women have helped a total of 30, 000 projects meet their fund raising goals the largest website, on Kickstarter. But for these projects founders, getting the money may be the easy part. Then they have to turn their fantasies into reality, with an audience. This model comes along with philanthropists who rear them to grasp, and a host of possible pitfalls that are difficult to anticipate. Backers are essentially putting their trust in your job creators, giving them money in return to the promise of a future reward.

People that give a few dollars to a moviemaking job can get their names in your credits, while somebody that puts up $100 to support development of a smart wristwatch could be guaranteed one of the finished items. Much of your time this works out. But some projects, including some important and in demand ones, need run into missteps and lengthy delays. The permits for a brand new food truck might not come throughout. Or a gadget such as the Elevation Dock could be harder than expected to manufacture and ship. The rise of crowdfunding came up frequently over your weekend here at your debut of your XOXO Festival, a conference that focused on new models and outlets to creativity on your web.

The conference was co founded by a former Kickstarter employee, Andy Baio, that sold $400 tickets on Kickstarter itself to gauge interest in your event and raise cash for it. The relationship between creators and supporters on crowdfunding websites is still being worked out. The backers play your role of philanthropists, investors, clients or all the above. And once guaranteed rewards are slow to materialize, eager backers can get cranky. Its definitely a lot of pressure, said Eric Migicovsky, whose Kickstarter job to create a line of Pebble wristwatches with innovative displays raised more than $10 million more than 10 times what he'd hoped to get.

Saw a similar post about his yesterday, it was jellop