by lowkey » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:51 am
Proud makers. Proud. What a word to replace "ignorant" or "arrogant" right? thats your best idea for a long time now. better write it down boy!
zuckerberg founded facebook. saverin, parker pitch the sales.
steve job founded apple. guy kawasaki and his team pitch the sales. (and they even outsource)
and the list goes on.
the problem is not about how marketing having a big chunk of your idea, but the fact that you denied their contributions in your company.
why, in the first place, they asked for 30% of your sales? because you dont have money to afford for the ads service and the direct fees.
if you have the money, you hire a team to do the research for you, and pay for the ads yourself.
what do you expect? somebody to work for you and in return they got $10,000 for your 1 million sales? every legit company know...nono, every sane businessman know when you created a product, the margin goes for :
cost to make + cost for marketing + labour + profit margin = final price.
but nope. not you. all you can think about is how much to make it and how much to sell them. typical.
you refuse to admit the importance of marketing to get your product out there. you refuse to pay people to help you, yet you throw tantrum for when people refuse to work with you. what is this? kindergarten? are you 6? where you expect everyone to say "ok" because you act childish?
as I mentioned before, I am one of those haters. I hate them for the fact they take advantage of product creators when they charge for unreasonable fees while this marketing work can be done through extensive research and understanding of creators own product. BUT, I do admit if the product creators refuse to do research on their own, and rely 100% on other people to do marketing for them, they gotta see this coming.
But you, my dear proud boy.
You launched 5-6 projects in different platform and successful in shipping as well. Obviously you are good in marketing. I assume. So why are you looking for marketing agencies? If I may, to increase sales. You are good, but to certain point. You know you can get more, but you refuse to pay more. Wew. Grow up.
And dont do this whole "this forum is awesome with a lot of makers and supporters"...what are you now politicians? You obviously trying to get support from the forumers by using the "we are proud makers" sentiment. Not everyone have the same meaning for the word "proud" like you do. They admit sometime they need outsiders help, and they need to make their own research to verify who can help them the most including identifying if some agencies works better with tech product or design or games etc.
ah boy, boy, boy. you got roasted.
not because i am good, but because you are bad at this. delete this post if you may. save some face will ya?