is crowd pr angels legit?
  • chet.matrine
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    by chet.matrine » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:57 pm

    This is an excellent report, and I think you for providing it to the community. I will begin my research into Crowd PR (www.crowd.pr)

    Whenever I evaluate marketing promotions services for my kickstarter campaign, I will be sure to read your reports and posts first before I make the hire.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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  • alexissmith
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    Crowd PR

    by alexissmith » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:59 pm

    Crowd PR is known to the internet as https://crowd.pr, beware of Crowd PR because of their website, and do not give them any of your time by responding to an email messgae from them.


    chet.matrine wrote:This is an excellent report, and I think you for providing it to the community.

    Whenever I evaluate marketing promotions services for my kickstarter campaign, I will be sure to read your reports and posts first before I make the hire.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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  • galeunderwood
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    by galeunderwood » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:01 pm

    I have been doing this for several months now. I always check the fraud watch section too. You should check it out over there, there are so many reports about companies trying to scam kickstarter projects that it's not even funny.

    Never heard of Crowd PR, but I am keen to see what their website can do www.crowd.pr

    chet.matrine wrote:This is an excellent report, and I think you for providing it to the community.

    Whenever I evaluate marketing promotions services for my kickstarter campaign, I will be sure to read your reports and posts first before I make the hire.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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    Last edited by galeunderwood on Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
    here's my campaign link: http://kck.st/2zpXDxF
  • danishlatif853
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    by danishlatif853 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:04 pm

    How can they keep getting away with this??

    Is there nothing we as a community can do besides make reports on the forum? We need to unite and take action. We must destory Crowd PR and all the other marketing and PR Agencies, enough is enough Crowd PR! These marketing companies are such a bad thing against us. If there were no marketing, then all of our projects would succeed in their endeavors, I am sure of it.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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    Last edited by danishlatif853 on Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
    We are preparing for our first launch, coming up in 1 months time!!!
  • sajidsaab54321
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    Re: is crowd pr angels legit?

    by sajidsaab54321 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:08 pm

    They will continue to scam as long as we exist. It is just the way things are. Best we can do is report them over and over again in hopes that the community will quit hiring them.

    Only problem I have found is that they just change their name after they have been caught. Seems to be a cycle that continues over and over again.

    I think that this forum once talked about making a directory of all the scams so that it would be easier to look them up, but when they are all posted on the forum it serves the same purpose.

    I am keen to avoid scams and I keep a watchful eye on this forum for whenever they arise against us. I suggest you do the same.

    danishlatif853 wrote:How can they keep getting away with this??

    Is there nothing we as a community can do besides make reports on the forum? We need to unite and take action. These false companies are such a bad thing against us. If there were no scams all of our projects would succeed in their marketing, I am sure of it.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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  • Maestro
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    by Maestro » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:11 pm

    Eventually they will get caught and justice will reign down upon them. For now though, we just need to keep filing as many reports for when the day comes that someone sues them or the authorities arrest them. I don't know if Crowd PR is the same, but if so they must pay dearly.

    If we could unite, we could all file a lawsuit, and if we win we will win a judgement upon all of their earnings for life. This would be enough to put a stop to them once and for all is what I believe.

    We can do it!

    danishlatif853 wrote:How can they keep getting away with this??

    Is there nothing we as a community can do besides make reports on the forum? We need to unite and take action. These false companies are such a bad thing against us. If there were no scams all of our projects would succeed in their marketing, I am sure of it.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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  • trent.palo.smith
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    by trent.palo.smith » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:14 pm

    I just went to that website you linked to, and that company does not even do crowdfunding (Crowd PR Angels). It is a nonprofit serving underprivileged youth.

    Are you high or something?
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  • mike420blazed247
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    by mike420blazed247 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:17 pm

    I think you have posted the wrong link, as the link you posted to contains a link to a charity, but it does have the name Crowd PR Angels in it.

    Just calm down and read the following guide if you're having trouble getting traction in your marketing program, its a great article in the Forbes media outlet: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hecparis/2 ... -to-avoid/

    Hope you have a great crowfunding campagin, and may your project be successful in this new year.
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  • BigBoJackson
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    by BigBoJackson » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:19 pm

    This seems like a bit overkill. I have better things to do with my time than go on wild goose hunts.

    You should probably focus more on your campaign than trying to hurt marketing agencies.

    mike420blazed247 wrote:I'll fight them with you. Here is what we need to do:

    1. report them to their web host for web spam

    If 20 of us do that, they will begin to take us seriously.

    2. report them to the google search engine for web spam. Again 20 of us must do this in order for a report to be taken seriously.

    3. most importantly, we all need to report them to kickstarter, every single day for up to a month. Eventually kickstarter will do a blog post about how they need to be avoided and that will shut them down once and for all.

    BEWARE THIS SCAM.

    Who is with me?
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    no live campaign yet, im gearing up for a big 2018
  • p90xsmalls
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    by p90xsmalls » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:22 pm

    I will never work with a charity for my business needs. They just don't know how to do any good marketing, that's the main problem right there people.

    FRAUDWATCHMAN wrote:I've attached an image of the agency in question. I did a quick search using my usual channels and a few things of interest came up. Summary of my fraud assessment risk:

      * Domain trust score 2/5, Alexa rank of 8,546,229
      * No ripoff reports (that could be found)
      * No reviews online anywhere!
    Their domain was registered in 2014, and having an utter lack of track record online indicates that they do not do good work, or else they would have reviews. My assessment is that this is a high risk company if you choose to go with them. Reviews are a must if you are an active company, and not having any reviews is inexcusable.

    One thing to consider is that although the crowd pr angles domain is old, this could actually be a new scam. Many times the whois info does not show the most recent registry for the domain, it will actually show the old one. So what we may be seeing here is a brand new website targeting crowdfunding campaigns.

    If you want to look further into these guys, I recommend you check out the guides below and follow the steps that they have outlined. Following is a few articles I have found helpful in identifying scams. Once you learn the basic principles in the articles, you will be well on your way to avoid being scammed. The principles are not hard to master, and the more you practice them, the better you get at them. My personal beliefs are that one must first master the principles before they launch a campaign. You will be flooded with emails from agencies, and if you don't know how to separate the real from the fake, you will waste most of your budget on services that don't produce results.

    New Balance has a wonderful guide on how to avoid scams, although it's more directed at backers you can apply the same principles to agencies, see it here:
    https://www.thebalance.com/how-to-avoid-scams-and-fraud-in-crowdfunding-985179

    Business Insider also has a useful guide on how to do a crowdfunding campaign, there is a small section that goes over picking the right marketing partner, see it here:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ensure-a-lucrative-crowdfunding-campaign-2014-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

    Last, Consumer Reports has a good step by step guide on how to avoid being scammed, read it here: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/crowdfunding-scam

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